Cde Musa Xulu: 'we'll have a socialist cum developmental state which is what we need in this country...'
Such proposals have already been made to the previous cabinet (including some who are still in it!)
As Cde Roy Morgan observed earlier quite correctly, no more ignoring the mass...these people are there to be answerable to us.
The new boys must come with their own meaningful suggestions and consider what the grass roots want by having indabas- not at Sandton!
In terms of our culture, historical imbalances, etc, a socialist cum developmental state should be openly promoted as the only practical alternative anyone against that is not only insensitive to our needs, but would also have his/her capitalist, racist and exploitative agenda, not worthy of being African in its broader, all-embracing context!
Amandla! The Second Revolution continues.. this time, in earnest!
11/5/2009 9:36:58 PM
Njabulo Xulu
Hi FJZ,
Congratulations are in order for our new President, Zuma and his capable cabinet.
I would like to ASK the Webbie or anyone else to provide us the transcript of what that young 'imbongi' / praise singer during the inauguration on Saturday.
The things that young man was saying were very profound about Zuma's journey from iNkandla to the Union Buildings.
I truly hope someone can help with this transcript.
11/5/2009 9:01:24 PM
MM
SUKA
Ayi ndoda kanti yini inkinga yakho , you are disrespectful and you know what President Zuma is an elder to you can you try and show some respect, NX !!uyanyanyisa manje it is no fun anymore stop attacking my president please man in fact did you not say that this site must be closed now but you are still here posting .
Just show some respect please
11/5/2009 8:43:53 PM
Pat Stevens
Tendai,
So far as South Africa is concerned, Morgan Tsvangirai is the democratically elected leader of Zimbabwe, the pathetic geriatric is just a bynote in history. We will wait for Morgan’s 100 Day Address on Tuesday, and then we will follow his recommendations to the letter, so Batty Bob better take careful note.
11/5/2009 7:26:31 PM
Tendai
kgaleshi (FJZ Mobile)
I have spoken to 2 important geologists who say that Muwanga's information about Zimbabwe's mineral depositis are completely without scientific substance. I was told to Google resources and mineral depsoits and mining. There are thousands of answers and they all are very different from the data here. If this is info from the Zim High Commission, guess who benefits from investment in fictious mineral deposits?
To all of you on President Zuma's supporters website
Will your new SA government force ZANU PF to follow the SADC agreeement more correctly? How will changes affect SADC issues? Wll Zimbabweans have a President in SA who listens to ordinary Zimbabweans?
11/5/2009 7:07:16 PM
Ernst Marais
Dankie, President Zuma, vir die uitreiking na Afrikaners - soos nou weer met die aanstelling van Pieter Mulder. Waar ander verdeel, is jy 'n brugbouer.
11/5/2009 6:41:36 PM
Musa Xulu
I am impressed with president Zuma's cabinet which is well balanced and the split up of portfolios and realignment thereof clearly shows that Msholozi will implement our Polokwane resolutions. Actually, the make-up thereof is already part of the implementation phase as most is part of the recommendations of conference. He is living up to his words when he used to say, "emphasis will be on implementation of existing and new policies so as to fast track delivery". By the way, Pat Stevens, here under is a brief resume of Pravin Gordhan who was a member of both the SACP & ANC until 1990 and not 1977 as you incorrectly captioned 'cos 1977 is when he started his involvement in underground structures.
Pravin Gordhan is a Durban-born cadres who as you already was recently the SA Revenue Services SARS) commissioner. He was a member of the former University of Durban-Westville council. Gordhan was also chairman and secretary of the influential Durban housing action committee. He was also an executive member of the Natal Indian Congress from 1974 until 1990, and a member of the ANC and SACP underground structures from 1977 until 1990. Of course there is a gap from 1990 until 1999 when he assumed his role as SARS commissioner but that was the beginning of the unbanning of the ANC. I hope that he still has communist blood running through his veins 'cos we need someone who will swing us to the left in order to correct the skew towards the right when we had a capitalist driven economy which was forged by Trevor & co. It is strategic to have Trevor in the planning commission because the markets trust him but it will/should end there. Over time the system will correct itself and move to the centre when we'll have a socialist cum developmental state which is what we need in this country.
Zuma is a shrewd politician and what he's done is a stroke of genius because if you want buy-in in effecting change you must get those who are respected and trusted by the markets to be the ones who effect such change. I commend you Nxamalala ngobuhlakani bakho. The markets should react negatively because they understand that the only thing that is constant in life is change. So, for me, that Manuel will set the agenda for policies in the planning commission shouldn't or won't necessarily give him cartblanche powers to come up with his own policies. He must instead prepare and plan based on ANC policies as adopted in various conferences and take instructions from the party, after all it is the ANC that is in government. When he hands over the material to Collins, Chabane must then implement only ANC policies nothing else and discard anything plus everything that doesn't come from Polokwane or previous conferences for that matter. If the previous presidents had had planning and evaluation in their offices, we would be far in terms of realising the dream of a better life for all
I think that Zuma may very well follow the ANC policies, judging by the way he started in his cabinet appointments. This will be a refreshing move away from Mbeki's style of coming up with his own policies (driven by IMF, World Bank and whoever else could influence him from the business sector) which he dumped on Trevor to implement.
11/5/2009 6:07:32 PM
Pat Stevens
Muwanga
The Chinese have been selling gold ever since they heard you were on to them, the latest figure is not 1.093 tons but 1.054 tons, which still puts them ahead of Switzerland. So China is in 5th place, behind Italy and France, Germany and the fabulously wealthy United States of America.
Phakah
You are correct, it is Human Settlements and not Housing Settlements, either way Tokyo still has to build a lot of houses. Unless of course the ANC has some African scheme up their sleeve that I am unaware of, perhaps they’re thinking more in line with communal villages, whatever they are up to I assure you I will find out.
Concer
Sorry to hear that you have been the victim of crime, this is something that Prez JZ must urgently attend to, perhaps the news below will cheer you up.
Star
NEW CABINET GARNERS PRAISE
Citizen
ZUMA RISES TO THE OCCASION
Business Report
NEW MINISTERS RECEIVE PRAISE ACROSS BOARD
Missus Helen
NEW CABINET IS BAD NEWS
Helen Zille said the DA would watch two critical new appointments very closely, Pravin Gordhan and Ebrahim Patel.
That’s the type of thing you can expect from the Zille white-right, they are inordinately fond of gullible coloured voters, but not too keen on Indian leaders. Small numbers of black or coloured leaders will be tolerated, but outside of pushy Missus Helen, women of all shades or ethnic origins are absolutely taboo.
11/5/2009 5:57:34 PM
AK
Friends of Jacob Zuma
Do you still remember a chapter from that short book one was trying to write. Was it not written that the box is passed from one President to another? How did you feel when the Chain was passed from Mothlante to Zuma.
11/5/2009 5:52:05 PM
kgaleshi (FJZ Mobile)
To Cde Muwanga.
I can only think of Mzi Khumalo.
Now my qoestion is, if indeed zimbabwe hold as much those mineral deposits, HOW MUCH MORE MZANZI?
Wa Nkunda and other Comrades, How much are we driving/walking on underneath us that we dont even know?
How much platinum/diamonds/uranium/gold/coal/diamonds/chrome and others?
I know u guys know,pls help us here to understand why the west is raping us for?
How much does mozambique/drc/zambia/botswana hold ?
Wa nkunda, You are quiet...
Posted to the Friends of JZ website via www.myjz.co.za
11/5/2009 5:47:07 PM
AK
Who are the real politicians?
It has always been a mystery as to who these FJZ contributors are. Most of them will hardly be known as they traverse the landscape under the thick veil of secrecy while many have revealed themselves to be nobodies but men and women in the ordinary streets of South Africa. Some indeed are waling from so far afield as the slopes of the Alps and the Prairies of the Americas. Many of you are just but the guy next door.
Whoever you are, wherever you are, the world has always stood in wonder, no in awesome amazement as to where this resilience and tenacity, deeper than the inveterate roots exudes from. Many of you have written so much, many of us are even wondering whether you ever take time to eat6r sleep. Yes, indeed it would appear that many of the friends of JZ actually sleep with their pens dipped in ink, the hands clutching it in expectant hope to write the next line.
I have seen the list that is going to represent us in parliament. We have read the opinions of the likes of Druza and Concer. The youthful faces of the Msingas are nothing that you know is going to be in parliament, and yet it is such Sober Minds that one expects to be debating and dazzling the oppressive minds of the DA.
We have listened to the wise opinions of the Wa Nkundas. There is no doubt, not even in the mind of the fool that our parliament would be so much richer with species of this caliber. And yet ladies and gentlemen people have crossed the length and breath of our country in search of these people and they, like the shimmering mirage vanish when you just think you have laid your hands on them.
It being the time of the crucifixion of our Lord, one imagines the Roman soldiers meeting our Lord and asking of him to show them He who goes around declaring himself the King of the Jews. Would it be preposterous imagining a day meeting many people who call themselves Toms and yet they parade under the names of Wa Nkundas.
How sad it would be if men and women of such vigour and valour are not strutting the corridors of our parliament. Then the question is, who is actually representing us? Who is it that thinks so well and yet his thinking remains but a beautiful dream.
One has sought out to meet all these nimble minds and yet they are found to be ordinary boys and girls, so ever loyal to the course of our liberation. Then the question is, who is it that thinks so well and yet is nothing but a figment of imagination?
Many have listened to the Welcome home campaign. How sweet the sound, how noble the idea. We truly welcome home these returned soldiers or dastards, depending upon how vengeful your heart is for foe and friend are just but the same thing, depending upon your mood on the day or the soup of the day.
The rhetorical question will ever remain … can we ever truly trust people whose love for the African National Congress is hot with the hotness of the wind, people whose love is cold with the coldness of the wind? Shall we ever trust again people who, when they see the bread is buttered on the top jump for the same and when the fat gravitates to the undersurface jump all too soon for the same? When shall people stick with the ANC through thick and thin? Is this what is now is being referred to as the politics of the stomach?
Africa you are too forgiving, the same forgiveness makes you to blame yourself for the effects of slavery as though you were enslaving yourselves.
Yes we must forgive but we shall ever remember the actions of those who are ANC when it is summer and are anything else when it is winter. Is it not a shame that the same should rule us again upon their return from their peregrinations in parties far flung from the party they vowed to live and die for? Is it not time to question the motives behind these skimping politicians? Africa you forgive too soon and you may be betrayed again.
This was never ever intended for anybody to understand, but for my own joy that I have written it.
Wa Nkunda, if you are not in parliament, who then should be?
NONI EC if your views are nothing but the babbling sound of a toddler that vanishes into the air as though it never was uttered, then the question is…..who is it that that thinks so well however, remains nothing but the beautiful dream.
11/5/2009 5:43:20 PM
AK
Gaga gagaga
Gaga Gagagagaga gagagagaga
I have long been saying that the AK will roar over the mountains and valleys.
The lion of iNkandla has spoken and all the nations of the world have heard his voice.
The scattered children of Africa will be gathered home once more
The crying and the hungry will once more have their fill.
How sweet that on the eve of the new cabinet I have been employed.
We have long been dying to work for our people where we can make a difference.
Good evening, good morning, good day comrades.
I have listened to all your calls, one just could not get the time to talk to you
Congratulations my friends.
I have been writing everyday, today I just want to release a few of those writings.
It may please you to know that as soon as I got the job Vroutjie invited me back into the main bed room. Of late one has had to share the bed with Spottie, our dog.
Wakhala umratata!
How fortunate that I was called for a job, just as the cabinet was announced.
Please do not get bored by my delusions.
Many have been saying, ”how come you are moving up and down the corridors of life and your Msholozi is in power.”
I just do not know what they will say now.
I greet you all my comrades in the name of providence, peace and tranquility.
Makabongwe ophezukonke.
I have no doubt in my mind that you all love me.
I truly believe believe that Mr Jacob Zuma had to go through all the accusations, trials and tribulations to get to where he is.
You have been through all those things so that you can conquer and you have conquered.
Siyakubongela Baba o qobile and that is what we have wanted all along.
11/5/2009 3:48:50 PM
Zikhona
Muwanga, Comrade
Can you please elaborate on the issue you have touched on GM food. Actually I have posted in this Web requesting for information like that but Specifically on the role of what is called Washington and Post washington Consensus (PW and PWC)in developing "South".
I was reading an article by Stiglitz Where after coming up with what is called "Fresh Opportunites " he is criticising Brenton Woods Institutions on failing to develop the "South" .
I want to understand this thing of Globalisation may be I will even consider to enrol for an academic degree to understand international influence on the Socio-political and economic position of our continent, Africa
Remember I was introduced and inspired to do my research on this concept from this house.FJZ
11/5/2009 2:18:05 PM
SUKA
We hope President Zuma delivers on his many promises and as a South African, I wish him and his cabinet well. We will give him the benefit of doubt, but we will watch him nad his cabinet closely and hold him accountable. After all , it is our money that his government will be using and it must be used wisely.
We wish him well, though his cabinet is a little bit larger for our conutry's circumstances and in such tough economic times.We do understand that due to his limited knowledge, he needed more people to assist him.
Now it is delivery time.
11/5/2009 2:14:47 PM
ellens sereme
Hi Babu Zuma, im very much happy for you as our new head of state. we've been looking forward us as South Africans to have a President like you.
LOOKING FORWARD WORKING TOGETHER WITH YOU BABU MSHOLOZI AND, I HOPE ALREADY NOW YOU HAVE UMSHINI WAKHO,O MELE USEBENZISE. OUR HONOURED PRESIDENT
From: Ellen Mboni Sereme/ from Daveyton
Thanks
11/5/2009 2:01:40 PM
Muwanga
Halo comrades.
Kgaleshi.
I was chatting to young CA from Zim last week. He confirmed those stats on Zim minerals. He said his father is a miner and that during his school holidays he would work in the gold mine (underground) with his father.
He told me that the mine he worked at was estimated to have Gold for 100,000 years.
The person who owns that mine/rights is a South African "big boy" his surname begins with K.
Pat.
China has been quietly amassing gold it now has 1093 tonnes in its reserves. What do you think cousin?
Ak. You are quiet. I will tell you some Afrikan stories later.
Swine flu
I was told this week. Swine flu "escaped "from a lab. It is a combination of:
Flu virus from a Pig
Flu virus from a bird
two flu (viri) Virus from humans.
some virus mutate so...... you guys do the maths.
GM foods are awash in SA. e.g maize, potatoes, fruits etc. chickens imported from South America etc..... scientists say they only select the good genes. salt is good and milk is good. when you mix them do you get some thing good?- you never know until you findout.
And we are what we eat! And neighbouring countries import food from SA
11/5/2009 1:47:48 PM
Pinky Makatini-Miles
Concer,
Sorry to hear about this recent truama. Keep safe and you will be in my prayers.
11/5/2009 1:28:57 PM
Mandla
Hi Mr president, we as a South African citizens we support you and your cabinet. We trust your members and as people who living with disability we have hope now because you never forget us, meaning we got a voice in parlament. i wish you a lot Mr our President.
I thank Mr President.
11/5/2009 1:21:04 PM
Phakah
Hi Comrades
Pat we don't have Housing Settlements Department but we have Human Settlents Department, I am very cautious about correct msgs to the people. Ayikabi brother just a point of correction.